Carrie Ann Baade [BFA 1997] interviewed on Spraygraphic
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By Spraygraphic | February 17, 2010 Spraygraphic Interview with Carrie Ann Baade

SG: Please tell us about yourself?
CB: I’m an Assistant Professor of Painting
whose major emphasis is the historic materials and techniques at
Florida State University. While I see myself as a painter first and a
teacher second, teaching keeps me sane. I am pretty sure I would go
nuts if I stayed in my studio 24/7. My degrees are from the School of
the Art Institute of Chicago and the University of Delaware but I also
studied classical realism at the Florence Academy of Art in Italy.
After traveling around the world a bit, the pursuit of a job took me to
Tallahassee, Florida. Most of the year, everyone here wears sandals and
there’s romantic looking Spanish moss. I have some great students who
distract me from my desire to board a plane to more metropolitan areas,
so I might balance the nowhere with somewhere. I could dis Tallahassee
but frankly, after exhibiting in Ningbo, Berlin, London, and coast to
coast in the US….I have only had 4000 people come to one of my openings
here: in Tallahassee. This was a big lesson for me. At any other venue
on opening night, I would be happy to see 400 folks. Nothing sold, but
there is no replacement for enthusiasm this place has shown for my work.
SG: What mediums do you work with?
CB: The subjects of my work include the
gods, rulers, and demons as metaphors for the complexity of absolute
states of the human condition. This body of work consists of twelve
paintings about extreme states of human existence. "Intemperance” is a
body of work that thematically explores states of excess through
multiple figure narratives and portraits of women. Each painting is
composed from snippets of pictorial fragments. A prototype collage of
layered scraps with cut edges is the first completed and establishes
the composition (see Figure 3). Some of these are photographs of me
while others are torn out illustrations from art history books. Using
this collage. The agglomeration is the source for the painting executed
in a trompe l’oeil manner: the multiple layers with cut edges are not
intended to make a harmonious synthesis. These suggest the complexity
of the individual’s psychologies – their exposed masks and their
concealed secrets. Studying with art conservators and looking
at the old masters informs the materials and techniques used in these
paintings. These archaic processes are used in the hope of preserving
these traditional methods. As an artist and subject in my work, I
attempt to use and reuse art history for the purpose of reinvigorating
the past for a contemporary audience.
I paint indirectly which means that I paint in layers. For this I
create a highly rendered ink under-painting (see figure 4). The
creation of work with this technique is a statement of uncommon
technical skill but achieved with more accuracy through the use ink.
This technique is process-oriented and requires time to produce each
consecutive layer of oil paint over the ink drawing in order to build
the visually rich painted effects (see figure 5). It is possible to see
the exactness of the painted work (see figure 6) in comparison with the
original collage, which assists my conceptual objective to show the
fragmented source imagery of this work. 
SG: What kind of things do you do when you get blocked or find it hard to create something?
CB: I do handstands. I find sleep and yoga
are what restores my focus, but then it’s sitting down with the problem
and not giving up until it’s resolved. I have a tendency to tenacious
about things I want.
SG: You have been described as a
Surrealist artist. Can you tell us how you perceive that description
and what Surrealism means to you?
CB: More specifically, the term being used
is Pop Surrealist, a term coined by Kirsten Anderson. I have been
showing with a gallery for the past 3 years that is historic in this
movement, Billy Shire Fine Art, while Pop Surrealism is a burgeoning
art movement, it has it’s roots in Low Brow art which has existed in
some form for the past 40 years. This has been an underground,
counter-movement, which merits recognition. In the greater art world,
"Pop Surrealism” has been finding new acceptance in contemporary art
criticism and in major urban art museums. "Since 1994, this ground
swelling of lowbrow, surrealistic, pop, figurative, narrative work has
coalesced and found a voice in the pages of Juxtapoz magazine published
in San Francisco.”
The foundation of this work relies on the
artists’ ability to describe the world realistically – in order to then
subvert and distort it. Whether the artists’ works are wickedly
satirical, bizarre, humorous, fluently painted or crudely
conceptualized, there is no doubt of their popular appeal. Through much
of the 20th century, representational counter-movements were
marginalized. The general population, non-intellectuals, felt at home
interpreting figurative art for themselves without the mediation of an
art critic or a special education (one reason they liked Dali so much).
Viewers are intrigued by the off-kilter, the magical and the
imaginative (another reason why Dali’s reputation soared). There are so
many tremendously talented artists around this scene. Sometimes I am
not sure if I am a "pop surrealist” but I am absolutely certain that
exhibiting and hanging out with the artists from this movement is the
most fun I have ever had. To name a few: Kathy Olivas, Sas and Colin
Christian, Travis Louie, and Chris Mars. 
SG: Where are you currently finding your inspiration?
CB: My works leaps out of insomniac
hallucinations…out of the pages of the books I am reading. I don’t
really paint as a reaction to contemporary culture. I am more inclined
to illustrate metaphors for my own confounding relationships most of
what I make comes from my the inside of my mind….hmmm I guess you could
say, I turn myself on.
Our lady’s rage has gotten the better of
her and she is roaring a malediction to the very powers of creation to
change her circumstances. Perhaps we have all felt like we were
difficult to put up with or that the world around us was reproachable.
This three-headed tiger sits on a lotus dais from the Eastern
traditions attributed to one who is a god. As she rages, the lotus, a
symbol of enlightenment are set afire suggesting that all one’s efforts
to be holy and good can be lost in an instant of bad behavior.
SG: Where has your work been seen?
CB: Currently, 3 galleries represent me:
Billy Shire Fine Arts in LA, Rosenfeld Gallery in Philadelphia, and Pop
Gallery in Santa Fe. I usually have two solo show a year and several
group shows.
SG: Where will it be seen next?
CB: My next opening is in Philadelphia
March 7th. This show is titled, "Tales of Passion and Woe” and will
feature 7 new works and a few from the "Intemperance” series.
SG: What is your dream art assignment?
CB: I would love to have the creation to
create a mural cycle in an indoor civic or public building that would
be seen by a large group of people over and beyond my time on earth.
SG: What is your favorite color?
CB: The color of peeled and skinned grapefruit as you hold it up to sunlight.
SG: Who is your favorite artist? And Why?
CB: Kris Kuksi.
Because he has been consistently blowing my mind for the past 5 years.
He has my respect and my attention because he takes the bric-a-brac of
figurines and children’s toys and makes an original vision rich with
political satire and reflections of the decadence in our society. As a
sculptor, he is one of the most original and poignant artists of our
time.

SG: What book/magazine are you reading this week?
CB: Coil House, Modern Painters Magazine,
Maxfield Parrish, by Coy Ludwig, and a book on medieval materials and
techniques of tempera painting.
SG: Have you ever done a self-portrait? Where is it now?
CB: Most of my works are self-portraits. This is the one I am working on currently:
The Temptation of the Penitent Medusa
In this self-portrait as my alter ego, I
am painting and trying hard to stay on task as I am assaulted by
several demons that wish to provoke me away from my work. This painting
combines elements from four historic painting subjects: The Penitent
Magdalene, The Temptation of St. Anthony, St. Luke Painting a Portrait
of the Virgin Mary, and Medusa. Medusa was an innocent, who was
punished by being turned into a monster, and she was rehabilitated like
Magdalene, however; the demons in her midst may lure her back to evil
ways against all her efforts to be pious.
SG: Where is your favorite place to hang out?
CB: Regretfully, I don’t get to hang out.
I am happily attached to my easel with a ball and chain, or sneak a
cigarette after class and mentor my students. But if I get out…I am on
a plane going to somewhere awesome. I just booked a ticket to Bali to
take a workshop with Alex Grey.
SG: Any final words of advice?
CB: Staying in your studio and working
your balls off makes art…. going out 3 or more nights a week does not.
Talent is bullshit; it’s a myth. You can do anything (with art) if you
practice. Make 500 bad paintings to make 15 good ones. Don’t give up.
The competition wills all eventually quit to go off and become massage
therapists, and YOU will be the last one standing. Art is good for your
soul…being a frustrated artist is bad for you, and everyone around you,
so I challenge you to stop the self-doubt and realize your potential!
Remember: Hitler was a failed artist!
If you are scheming to be the best you are in competition with all the
best, be yourself…exploit your flaws, they are what make you uniquely
you and no one can compete with that. If you are lazy, make work that
exploits your finesse. If you are self critical, make-work where you
work yourself in a way that satisfies you in a way that only you can be
perfect. 20 years ago, I was cutter and kleptomaniac; somehow, I think
I resolved my own character flaws and satisfied my deviant ways within
the process of being a productive artist. Someone could imitate me, but
I don’t think they would find it anywhere near as gratifying to cut up
books…steal imagery…and make them my own.
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